The Ideal Community

[Eliteone]

Again I fail to see how leaving those sections there "Hinders" growth?

 

If those "3" people were able to get the things they needed when they otherwise wouldn't have then we did a service for them and that's why we are here.

[[FF5]Knix]

If you promote this site and focus this sites resources on the ONE game that the majority of us play....

If you call this site UNITYHQ for the NOLF2 community.....

 

You will maximize our opportunity in getting more people playing this game.

 

If you leave it as is, with another site/forum already offering the same stuff that is offered here.....you are spinning your wheels.

 

Again, I am quite confident that you will not see any major drop (even at first) if you change this site/forum to its original focus, and soon after you will have more people coming to this game.

 

Perfect example is the SFI forum. You know me. I love you guys, but the activity in the NOLF2 section of the forum is minimal. Is it because you guys are not popular in the NOLF2 community? NO! Is it because you have a lack of active members? NO! It is because it is EASIER and more EFFICIENT to go to a site which allows direct access to information, with out having to cipher though various games. We need to promote NOLF2, This site was created for NOLF2, the NOLF2 game offers the most opportunity for growth between the 3 games.

[Belladonna]

You're more than entitled to your opinions, KNIX, but so is everyone else. Time to clear things up, though. UnityHQ was NEVER created just for NOLF2.

 

Yes, I originally started with the NOLF2 Clans Forums a while back and had always planned to expand it into something bigger and better. I don't recall exactly when I thought it would be a good idea to include all three games, it was more of a gradual change than a thunderbolt of an idea. It certainly wasn't solely due to the TGF fiasco, but that did have a factor in what was created.

 

It's not my goal to replace The site that shall not be named but to offer an alternative place that picks up in areas they leave off. Since clan issues are not permitted to be addressed at TGF that is the main reason why UnityHQ is here today. We also have the ability to provide servers and discuss issues pertaining to them. I like to think our 'Senseless Spam' section is bringing people together in a more fun manner as well.

 

UnityHQ provides a place for everyone in the NOLF community to talk about what is important to them, be it NOLF1, NOLF2 or Contract JACK. That is why it is called 'Unity Headquarters'. I am not going to drop the NOLF1 or CJ sections, so we can just stop going down that road. It's rude and inconsiderate of the players who have joined this site to talk about dropping them like this. If this site gradually morphs into only NOLF2 players, then so be it, but I won't tell people to go elsewhere or to say I can't help them because they don't play NOLF2. While I am associated with UnityHQ EVERYONE will be welcome and treated kindly, regardless of the game they prefer.

 

 

 

 

[Genesis]

Activity in the SFI NOLF2 forums might seem minimal, even though a lot of interesting info are displayed there, but the members-only section works quite well. It's a clan site, not originally designed for the public, and it only has a NOLF2 public section because it's cool for newbies to be able to get all they need to know from the same place and start playing ASAP.

 

I can't see how removing the very little space dedicated to the other 2 NOLF games would help our community grow, Knix. Yes, people come, download stuff, and go get technical information somewhere else because no-one from NOLF1 or CJ took much time to post about the 2 games. But it's never too late, eh

 

I'd like to add that every night I see many guests on the boards. Since most of the well-known NOLF2 players have registered already, I assume that they might be people who play the other games in the NOLF series. It would be a real deception for them to see us drop our NOLF1 and CJ sections, and totally focusing on NOLF2 wouldn't be a very good example of an open-minded community. If these players didn't register yet, it's (once again) because no-one took the time to post cool stuff about the two games. Let's try to do it, and we'll see what happens, but I'm pretty sure that the number of registered users will grow quite fast...

[[FF5]Knix]

It's rude and inconsiderate of the players who have joined this site to talk about dropping them like this

 

But I thought I was allowed to have my opinion?

 

 

Sorry if I seem blunt, but this is what I truely believe. I think I posted my reasoning as acurately as I can. I don't play nolf1 or CJ and have no interest in promoting it. If you wan't to maximize the potential of this site in growing the NOLF2 community....take my advice. If not, stay the course and lets see what happens.

 

 

 

 

[Eliteone]

Back to the original topic Ideal Community

The name calling finger pointing (the it's their fault type stuff) needs to stop from everyone it only further divides

 

The community needs to adopt the "all for one and one for all" attitude. For the community to be truly one everyone needs to be treated the same.

 

Forgive and forget. No one in this community walks on water (afterall we are all human) we all make mistakes. If you learned from those mistakes then you take the benefits of that learning experience and you move on (turn the page)

 

To stop the cheating and exploits of the game the fixes need to be available to all.

 

As this community has never embraced custom maps like other games then it is only logical to get them hosted in as many places as possible (most gamers want the files practically handed to them) this has been excuses cited by players in the past. So to restrict who hosts a map only further discourages people to play custom maps which in the end kills the games popularity. Other games map makers get their maps on usually at least 4 different hosting sites. They want their maps to be used which I suspect is the same for mappers for our community.

 

All people have the ability to forgive and forget, I have and if everyone else does then think of the possibilities for community growth.

 

 

So how do we accomplish this?

 

Everyone in the community needs to be able to be flexable and willing to meet everyone else part way as it isn't fair for only certain people to have to compromise and not others.

 

Thoughts on this.............

 

 

[Eliteone]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................

[StarMan Deluxe!]

Hey KNIX,I agree with you and disagree with you at the same time.I think that your right.If this site was a NOLF2 only,yes it would attract people to the game.

And looking at how dead the servers have been lately,we could really use some new players.But at the same time it would be a overkill not to mention extremely mean to kickout nolfers and CJers and make this a NOLF2 site.I know TGF and The site that shall not be named don't take kindly to NOLF2ers.I never registered there because I have this bad habit of "having a opinion" myself.I'm automatic BANNING material. But the point I'm trying to make is that if E1 made this a NOLF2 only site and banned NOLF1ers then she would just be playing the same juvenile game that they are playing,even if unintentionally.I think what Unityhq is about is well.........i hate to say this but I'm going to have to............UNITY!(hows that for some cheesy corn )Unity between the 3 games.Unity between the players of these games to come and hang out.A chance to get it right.

 

I want to see new people getting into this game too,but making it only NOLF2,it seems that the bad would out weigh the good.

 

 

I thought CJ was a bad game.But if i was talking to a group of people who seemed to enjoy the game i would have enough respect for them not to say "I hate CJ myself" because it would just be a dumb,rude,cocky,punk-a$$,little school girl thing to say.

 

Coty , me stating a fact does not equate to crying. If you want to see crying you and me can talk face to face one time . (Try not to break my foot w/ your azz if you can help it).

 

Hey KNIX if you do break your foot ,I would be more then happy to pay the doctor bill!

[Natter]

Hey KNIX,I agree with you and disagree with you at the same time.I think that your right.If this site was a NOLF2 only,yes it would attract people to the game.

And looking at how dead the servers have been lately,we could really use some new players.But at the same time it would be a overkill not to mention extremely mean to kickout nolfers and CJers and make this a NOLF2 site.I know TGF and The site that shall not be named don't take kindly to NOLF2ers.I never registered there because I have this bad habit of "having a opinion" myself.I'm automatic BANNING material. But the point I'm trying to make is that if E1 made this a NOLF2 only site and banned NOLF1ers then she would just be playing the same juvenile game that they are playing,even if unintentionally.I think what Unityhq is about is well.........i hate to say this but I'm going to have to............UNITY!(hows that for some cheesy corn )Unity between the 3 games.Unity between the  players of these games to come and hang out.A chance to get it right.

 

I want to see new people getting into this game too,but making it only NOLF2,it seems that the bad would out weigh the good.

I thought CJ was a bad game.But if i was talking to a group of people who seemed to enjoy the game i would have enough respect for them not to say "I hate CJ myself" because it would just be a dumb,rude,cocky,punk-a$$,little school girl thing to say.

Hey KNIX if you do break your foot ,I would be more then happy to pay the doctor bill!

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Servers dead?

Try to join a dd-server between 1 and 12 pm eastern on weekends. Often full house. The point is: Most dm players went to dd if they have a little playing expirience, bcs DD ROCKS. There are the the TOP-GUNS playing. Hope i see u there sometimes:rolleyes:

[Genesis]

One thing is sure, experienced players go to DD mainly because they know their friends will be there, too. I love DM and TDM, but as long as clans won't get involved in these 2 mods a bit more, activity will remain low.

 

So, talking about ideas to improve our community, I'd say let's organize DM and TDM events, such as special weekends, in order to increase the number of players who would switch regularly from one mod to another.

 

Sad but true, DM/TDM and DD are two seperate worlds in NOLF2. Maybe because some DM-only players never downloaded the updates and mappacks. If we don't go there at least a few times a week, we're likely to go on playing with the same people over and over...

 

Oh, and err... I never, ever played a clan match in TDM, and I know that many people would enjoy it. Now that we have the ability to run a 24/7 server for it, why not try to play some TDM clan matches sometimes?

[StarMan Deluxe!]

Servers dead? 

Try to join a dd-server between 1 and 12 pm eastern on weekends. Often full house. The point is: Most dm players went to dd if they have a little playing expirience, bcs DD ROCKS. There are the the TOP-GUNS playing. Hope i see u there sometimes:rolleyes:

 

Yeah Natter,you Gen and sp@zz are right.DD is where all the action is.Im just used to DM because those maps ran well on my old crappy PC.DD maps were to choppy for it to handle. Now that i have a actual PC,its time for me to graduate to DD!

[[FF5]Knix]

 

But at the same time it would be a overkill not to mention extremely mean to kickout nolfers and CJers and make this a NOLF2 site.I know TGF and The site that shall not be named don't take kindly to NOLF2ers.I never registered there because I have this bad habit of "having a opinion" myself.I'm automatic BANNING material.  But the point I'm trying to make is that if E1 made this a NOLF2 only site and banned NOLF1ers then she would just be playing the same juvenile game that they are playing,even if unintentionally.I think what Unityhq is about is well.........i hate to say this but I'm going to have to............UNITY!(hows that for some cheesy corn  )Unity between the 3 games.Unity between the players of these games to come and hang out.A chance to get it right

 

 

 

[RXS]

Would it help both sides if the site was redesigned, to some extent, so that it focused more on NOLF 2? We can still keep the sections for NOLF and CJ in case someone is looking for downloads, etc. However, the main intent and feel of the site would be NOLF2. Good compromise?

[Natter]

1., plz dont misunderstand, i dont want downgrade dm. i have a lot of fun there, especially if starman plays

 

2., I think Gen hit the point. Best way to a "ideal community" is to have common fun. Good one to organize unity events. Maybe we need a "Unityhq Event Manager"

 

3., I dont think focussing on Nolf2 is helping anything. I think more the opposite

Better make promotion for Nolf2 (and the CJ and Nolf1 forum let players look on all 3 games). We schould post some Nolf2-fun-postings in every forum we can find. For example in germany is a DSL-help forum(THX for the link AUGE). they have a section where they talk about games and pings and other funny things. I will post there a NOLF2-promotion-thread.

 

4., focus on somewhat and u lose the overview

 

5., amen

[Genesis]

Alright, one thing that should be fixed in some NOLF2 patch:

 

It would be MOOOOORE than cool to be able to see all servers on the same screen. Sincerely, how many "modern" games do use seperate screens for each mod? Around zero? Probably. That's one of the big flaws in the game. People who are used to going to (usually) crowded servers don't wanna waste their time. At startup, they click on their favorite mod, without wasting time checking other servers that run other mods. Really, checking your bloody Cd-key 4 times if you wanna take a look at all servers, that takes like what, 5 minutes? Who really wishes to wait that long, anyway?

 

As we said above, there's a gap between DD and DM players. Couldn't that be a good way of seeing more DD addicts in DM, and vice versa?

[Eliteone]

Back to the original topic Ideal Community

So how do we accomplish this?

 

Everyone in the community needs to be able to be flexable and willing to meet everyone else part way as it isn't fair for only certain people to have to compromise and not others.

 

Thoughts on this.............

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Too steer the topic back on track again

[Genesis]

The aim of my post was to find means to reduce the gap between DD and DM communities, Elite. Even if it's more a techy issue than a philosophic question, I think it has its place in this discussion.

[Eliteone]

I gathered that Genesis

 

I was going for the community wide thoughts too not by each particular game.

 

I think some of the factionism causes some of the friction among people.

 

The "Nolf 1 sucks or Nolf 2 sucks or CJ Sucks" comments and feelings.

 

I think all the games have their respective rights to be a part of the continuity of the community I guess.

[[FF5]Knix]

Since Coty made his incredibly enlightening remarks around 50 posts back, we have not heard from any of the players who mostly play NOLF1 or CJ make any posts. So I call out to all those people who play NOLF1 or CJ the majority of the time and use this forum to add your valuable two cents to this discussion.

 

Come on people, between the 3 of you out there, you must have something to say!

 

[SAURON]

I think that the best way for the community to inprove is members taking more of an active role in all the games if they have them and doing so as a community, so we could organize Nolf1 days, Nolf2 etc and make sure that players from both sides of the fence take part and also make them fun days with fun being the major word rather than scoring max points etc

 

I also think that to many people have a habbit of saying what is wrong rather than coming forward and doing something to make things better.

[Eliteone]

I think that the best way for the community to inprove is members taking more of an active role in all the games if they have them and doing so as a community, so we could organize Nolf1 days, Nolf2 etc and make sure that players from both sides of the fence take part and also make them fun days with fun being the major word rather than scoring max points etc

 

I also think that to many people have a habbit of saying what is wrong rather than coming forward and doing something to make things better.

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Well Stated

 

We should all come to the same "collective" table, pool ideas etc for the good of the community, for all the games in it and let the bygones be bygones, forgive and forget and move forward with clean slates for all.