Natter Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Since im a member of SFI i enjoy the clan-matches Its pretty gooooood gameplay Hard, fast, everyone knows what to do and where to go (most ), excellent teamwork no teamhoppers, no complaining (except of the ping as ever ), no chatkills or spawntags , even teams and fair players this is how a good game should be But the only clans who are still active are ST, FF5 and SFI. Theres not much choice for matches. What can we do?? any ideas??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 u could stop recruiting and give new clans a chance in stead of having half the nolf ppl in your own clan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Or some ex nolfers could start playing again and stop being such EX nolfers Yeah i noticed this too natter..Many people got bored with nolf i guess and not that many new players comes into the game..I also miss the clan matches from the good days.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteone Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 u could stop recruiting and give new clans a chance in stead of having half the nolf ppl in your own clan 5831[/snapback] For the record we don't go guns a blazing in our servers with the "Join SFI Now Recruiting" on the contrary we've offered in the past to help new clans out (loaning out server time etc) Those who join come to us and have to go through the application process. One thing most new clans fail to do is make friends with the clans in the game already. Instead they go on a "smear" campaign that in the end hurts them not the established clan. Anyhow Scorpio a new clan has to take the First Step and contact us. We can't do all the work for them then we'd be glad to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[FF5]Knix Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Well having to jump through hoops to play the game is not helping the cause either. I think its going to be hard to get any new clans at this stage of the game. Unless there is an unseen renaissance in NOLF2, what you see is what we have. What we need to focus on, it retaining the people who have played the game, and get them back from inferior "Hack Fest" games like COD . What is the status with [WR]? Maybe one of their members can tell us if they are up and running? How many active members are playing at TNT? Another thing to consider is to do what [WR] did way back, by sponsering "sister" clans. I don't remember if they took people from their own clan, or just sponsered the recruitment of players who had not as yet joined a clan. Anyway, most of the reason to be in a clan is to make friends on-line and play in the occasional match. Lets get the bloody servers up and running, and starts this puppy up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factor Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 something that you could do is break up the big clans like SFI and ST into 2 groups, like a euro and america group... that gives 2 more teams and the reason no clans r starting up in nolf2 is because most ppl in nolf2 are mature and know that its not easy to lead clans. its not like nolf1 where half of the clans r lead by 14 year olds and they last 2 weeks. then a new clan pops up 1 week later lead by the same dude. stuff like that. but maybe you can find people to start new clans up. i dont know ppl that have good leading power though in the nolf2 community. srry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteone Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 I'd be happy to advise anyone wanting to start up a clan. I've been running a clan since 2001 so I think I can give some good advice. All anyone has to do is PM me, find me on msn etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodingi Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 something that you could do is break up the big clans like SFI and ST into 2 groups, like a euro and america group... that gives 2 more teams and the reason no clans r starting up in nolf2 is because most ppl in nolf2 are mature and know that its not easy to lead clans. its not like nolf1 where half of the clans r lead by 14 year olds and they last 2 weeks. then a new clan pops up 1 week later lead by the same dude. stuff like that. but maybe you can find people to start new clans up. i dont know ppl that have good leading power though in the nolf2 community. srry 5855[/snapback] um.......no. most clans dissolved due to internal strife. clans like st and sfi differ because we seek out new members who can fit with our team. we don't recruit based on skill alone. there are many fine players available to recruit. go get em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 For the record we don't go guns a blazing in our servers with the "Join SFI Now Recruiting" on the contrary we've offered in the past to help new clans out (loaning out server time etc) Those who join come to us and have to go through the application process. One thing most new clans fail to do is make friends with the clans in the game already. Instead they go on a "smear" campaign that in the end hurts them not the established clan. Anyhow Scorpio a new clan has to take the First Step and contact us. We can't do all the work for them then we'd be glad to help. 5838[/snapback] it really doesnt matter how much room u give the new clan as long as you dont stop accepting new ppl. most of the ppl will try to join the clans with servers, descent websites etc before joining any new clan(unless its a clan of friends) although they could become big enough in a way they dont stand a chance... like with wr, hasnt grown a bit.. alll memb they have are either ex members or ppl that didnt get into st or something like factorr so the way i see it, you wanna help and thats fine but you arnt helping a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteone Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 it really doesnt matter how much room u give the new clan as long as you dont stop accepting new ppl. most of the ppl will try to join the clans with servers, descent websites etc before joining any new clan(unless its a clan of friends) although they could become big enough in a way they dont stand a chance... like with wr, hasnt grown a bit.. alll memb they have are either ex members or ppl that didnt get into st or something like factorr so the way i see it, you wanna help and thats fine but you arnt helping a lot 5896[/snapback] One thing about SFI we are a gaming "community" we don't give people the "finger" or slam the door on them because others don't have the "appeal" that applicant is looking for. It is up to the clan itself to present itself in a way that say "We are right for you" If you are going to judge on who has the servers well I'd be happy to rent a server out to a clan who wants to put forth the effort to have one up 24/7. Like Lodingi said we aren't all about having the kick*** players. We play to have fun, make friends and be a part of a community. That appeals to alot more people than some realize. It's that attitude of ours that makes the newer players feel welcome. We are not going to slam the door on someone cause it appeals to them as well. One thing over the last 3 years and 7 months SFI has adapted to the member who belong. We've offered to loan server time, give advice etc. I'm sorry Scorp but there is a time when the other clans need to decide how much commitment they want to put forth for their clan to proser and be appealing to others. Right now due to a commercial host that went out of business we are providing the only 24/7 nolf 2 servers right now for everyone to play on. The rest is up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[FF5]Knix Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 As long as we don't stop accepting new people poo poo? What kinda communist Dutchy crapola ya dishing out here? I would venture a strong guess that no one in FF5/ST/SFI actively recruits actively anymore ( until we figure out the ST server deal, it is kina pointless). Anywho we still have people droping in wanting to join, and we put them through a process. You need to get a sponser to represent you, you need to play for a month (be active in game, forums, vent, etc) then you get voted on by the active members, needing a 2/3rd's vote in your favor to get in. Then if you get in, we all get together, roast a pig, and drink grape soda....but alas I digresss. So if a person wants to join one of the active clans, we should say "No, f--- off and go start your own you have our full support!"? MVD tried to start up a clan but the Kirov was just a troubled young man, who was in no shape to do that job. TM with meatwad, food, and nova did the same. But again this is all redundant. Until we get the server situation up and running again (any news on this from Sierra E1?) clans are pointless in regards to competition. Right now clans are for having friends online and ragging people in a clans members only section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 not evry one has the money to pay for a server on him/herself(often a clan effort and thus u cant get it if u dont have a clan and y do you have ppl dropping in, ever thought about that? u have like 50 members out of maybe 200 nolf players so theres bound to be somebody online. there is no recruiting in either of ur servers so new clan websites will not be seen by as many ppl as yours because its right on the server list and your the only ones allowed to even speak about recruiting. (leaving out the recent devellopments around unityhq servers off course, wich is mayb a descent start for a new clan) dissss me all u want i stand at this end you at the other and this is my final post unless theres an intresting post wich hasnt been posted 20 times already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteone Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 not evry one has the money to pay for a server on him/herself(often a clan effort and thus u cant get it if u dont have a clan and y do you have ppl dropping in, ever thought about that? there is no recruiting in either of ur servers so new clan websites will not be seen by as many ppl as yours because its right on the server list and your the only ones allowed to even speak about recruiting. (leaving out the recent devellopments around unityhq servers off course, wich is mayb a descent start for a new clan) dissss me all u want i stand at this end you at the other and this is my final post unless theres an intresting post wich hasnt been posted 20 times already 5910[/snapback] No one is dissing you. If you however read the server rules we have on the SFI website you'd note a line about booking time on a server. If the new clan booked time then they could recruit to their hearts content during the booked time. Also if they approached Bella or myself and asked for some assistance we'd be glad to assist. This process is up to them. We can't make them take the effort. Also take an example of a $45 a month game server and a clan of 10 people. Pool your money into a paypal account and it's $4.50 per person to keep a server running (less than a fast food value meal) Being a clan leader is a responsibility allot undertake without thinking the long term through. I've seen clans survive without servers of their own. They do so cause they become friends and allies with the clans that have the servers. In that way they are able to build the foundations for their clan to keep it going. To often clans start up thinking they need to trash the established clans and break their rules. If people would start up their clan thinking of the other clans as colleagues then more would get off on the right footing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[FF5]Knix Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Who is dissing anyone? Maybe something got lost in the translation. My point is your argument does not hold water. You telling me that someone who plays nolf, can't get 4-5 buddies and start up their own clan? Look at the age of the leaders of each active clan. You see any teenyboppers running the shows? There is a reason for that and it ain't just $$$. I hate the argument "you guys don't help the individuals start another clan." Do we need to set up a community Kitty and give $$ (like a federal grant) to those individuals up to starting a clan? Sorry but you would get tarred and feathered for that kinda socialist talk here in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 scorpio, dont hate us because we're beautiful. why dont you saddle up, blow off the dust on your nolf 2 cd and join a clan in need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteone Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Ohhhh Kitty fund Send the $$ on over Knix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 yea yea, make fun of me have fun with it. if i have time i'll blow teh dust off but no clan needs me anyway, and i dont need a clan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteone Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 yea yea, make fun of me have fun with it. if i have time i'll blow teh dust off but no clan needs me anyway, and i dont need a clan 5936[/snapback] Who's making fun? Just hope you see where the established clans are coming from is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factor Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 scorp, e1 has stated many times that if there are new clans that need financial support that her clan can help get them on their feet so there is no problem here, so you gotta just drop that approach. the only real problem is leaders r hard to find. Leader isnt a title you are given its a title you earn. and not enough people in nolf could lead well. and most of the people respected enough to lead are already in clans and happy as members. a lot of the respected people that could lead also dont have the heart to and would rather just be a member. thats the only problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteone Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 scorp, e1 has stated many times that if there are new clans that need financial support that her clan can help get them on their feet so there is no problem here, so you gotta just drop that approach. the only real problem is leaders r hard to find. Leader isnt a title you are given its a title you earn. and not enough people in nolf could lead well. and most of the people respected enough to lead are already in clans and happy as members. a lot of the respected people that could lead also dont have the heart to and would rather just be a member. thats the only problem 6018[/snapback] financial support ? Um.... I'm not handing over my purse to anyone here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natter Posted June 22, 2005 Author Share Posted June 22, 2005 yea yea, make fun of me have fun with it. if i have time i'll blow teh dust off but no clan needs me anyway, and i dont need a clan 5936[/snapback] True, no clan need you But Nolf2 need clans or its dying soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 (Erh, Elite, when Spazz talks about "financial support", I think he means that we can help new clans save some money by lending them server time in their early days...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factor Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 that was precisely what i meant, thank you genesis. sorry for the confusion eliteone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteone Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 WHEW !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natter Posted June 27, 2005 Author Share Posted June 27, 2005 Hey i meaned this as a serious discussion, no one us my topic plz to attack our or any other clans. And maybe its a way that the big clans should recruite like crazy. We could make ligues like in football, soccer,..... Ok not all will stay but think of the fun in the practices and matches with full teams, and we could make clan matches in more rounds with different teams or change players during game like in sports. Put the tired out and the fresh in and so on or make a 24 hours game for the Guiness Book there are over 100 gamers here and i think there are 200 who play nolf thats enough to fill 5 to 10 clans or fill our big clans up to 30-60 ACTIVE Nolfers Your serious sssssssnake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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