Where Have All The Clans Gone: A Solution?

[Leesy]

Well I just can't be narfed to read all of the "Where have all the clans gone" topic. But from what I have seen, the gist of it is - WE NEED MORE CLANS! And that topic was started when ST were still alive & kicking. Well I want to do something about this and see if I can kickstart a clan revival!

 

What I would like to see is a few less people immediately joining SFI/NS and possibly trying to set up their own clan or perhaps joining a smaller one. I've got nothing against NS and SFI of course. I just want to see more clans! It would mean we could have more matches with a bigger variety of players. More friendly competition. Hell - even more unfriendly competition would be nice! I'm kinda missing PM...

 

So here's the deal. If there are a group of people out there who liked to make a clan, I'll help you set one up. So basically that means - a website, a forum and FF5 would let you use their server for your matches (although SFI/UnityHQ will normally let you use theirs if you just ask).

 

What do the other clannies think about this? Good idea/Bad idea? Got any other suggestions that you think would help get more clans going?

[ONYX]

Good stuff Leesy...............good stuff

[Caip]

ah...good ol' ST times...well you know if that offer would have been there at the time we shut down, ST might still exist

 

Anyway...good stuff!

[RXS]

ah...good ol' ST times...well you know if that offer would have been there at the time we shut down, ST might still exist

 

Anyway...good stuff!

 

Two thumbs up

[Natter]

Well done Leesy

 

Theres already the DK-clan growing a bit but.....mmmmm

it looks so un-professional...

 

They need help...promotion...a structure...

 

Let's visit their website and see how we can help...

[Spacko]

*deletes random posts*

 

Hey, this sounds great, Leesy! I hope it can get some up and coming Nolfers interested.

 

Two things we should be pushing for is:

 

1. A community voice chat server, open for everyone. It's a great way of socializing and if we can get clannies and non-clannies, new and old players hanging out together, it would certainly bring Nolfers closer together!

 

2. The established clans (SFI, NS, FF5) should really be the ones asking new and smaller clans like DK for clan matches. They probably have enough on their plate gathering the troops and getting to know the game, and I'm sure they'd appreciate some initiative from the oldtimers.

[Belladonna]

Spacko, on #1, do you mean a Teamspeak server? Like this one?

http://www.unityhq.net/forums//forums/inde...p?showtopic=205

 

 

 

 

[Spacko]

Well, yes, except I'm not sure TeamSpeak has the potential that I'm looking for. The audio quality is just not good enough to be somewhere folks want to hang out a lot, in my opinion. Ventrilo is probably best. Also, we'd somehow need to establish the feeling that everyone is welcome and wanted there, probably with the help of the veterans and clans.

[Leesy]

I agree with Mari - Ventrilo would be prefable to Teamspeak. The sound quality is much improved. Some people have trouble understanding my British accent on Vent - I'd hate to think how it would sound on TS. Anyhoo, I'll take a peek around and see what can be done.

 

As for smaller clans like DK - I believe some of our German members have spoken to them. But that's also the trouble with DK - they only speak German so it can be quite hard to get a match going unless you speak the lingo (and I only know how to count & order food!)

[*DK* Zyros]

Theres already the DK-clan growing a bit but.....mmmmm

it looks so un-professional...

 

They need help...promotion...a structure...

huh? What looks so un-professional in fact?...

Just because we´re not recruiting members "like hell"?...

Should we seriously get a flash-intro?...

~We have a "professional" clan-website , a TS-Server , and sometimes a DM-Server running~...

But in logic we are new, so i mean, we have "to learn" to work together in a team to rise our quality in NOLF2 ...

As for smaller clans like DK - I believe some of our German members have spoken to them. But that's also the trouble with DK - they only speak German so it can be quite hard to get a match going unless you speak the lingo (and I only know how to count & order food!)

What´s the Problem?-what´s hard?-You want a match?-write in "Fight us"...[the only Point you would have to know is "Eure Map", what´s even the same evertime, how I know (mean the "official-5-Maps")...

There is no choice for us (*DK*) who to fight against...

First there was *DK*vs.=NS= , now coming vs. {SFI} ... , and after that we would try it with [FF5]...

So simple till there are no more clans...

[john_heatman]

and how come your member name still is *KOA*Apokalyptikon? cause you can keep your access to the clan leader section then? this is unprofessional

[Leesy]

Heatman - He can't change his name. The board admins have to do it.

 

Now people - Can we please not turn this thread into a bitching session. This is a thread that really could do without it. Mari has already removed a load of fluff from this thread - let's not make her have to remove more.

 

Apok - Don't everything that is said too personally. Everyone is allowed an opinion. Natter is probably going from personal experiences which is perfectly fair. I personally like the DK site and it does look very professional. The English flag in the top right seems to do nothing though. I personally don't see any DK people in NOLF (an I am a European too) so this was why DK didn't immediately spring to my mind when thinking about clans. It wasn't meant to be any kind of insult to the clan.

 

 

[john_heatman]

Heatman - He can't change his name. The board admins have to do it.

usually you ask the board admins to change your name and take your clan off the list, because it doesn't exist anymore

[Natter]

Apologizes for the word "unprofessional" Apox..

was the wrong word, maybe, but my english isn't that perfect

 

I said this bcs if i tried to login to your site it says:

"U have to login for further procedure"

 

I think u started a very fine clan there...

looking forward to see u growin

 

[*DK* Zyros]

Apok - Don't everything that is said too personally. Everyone is allowed an opinion. Natter is probably going from personal experiences which is perfectly fair. I personally like the DK site and it does look very professional. The English flag in the top right seems to do nothing though. I personally don't see any DK people in NOLF (an I am a European too) so this was why DK didn't immediately spring to my mind when thinking about clans. It wasn't meant to be any kind of insult to the clan.

I have´nt anything about opinions... , and it even did´nt come to my mind as a form of an "insult"...

I just did´nt get the "problem" you talked of...

usually you ask the board admins to change your name and take your clan off the list, because it doesn't exist anymore

-.- even *KOA* was removed right after I told it, there are still "dead" links there of other clans that don´t exist , but that´s another thing..., cause *KOA* is still my (secret) title...

And it´s not meant of "keep your access to the clan leader section" ,cause there´s nothing going on, even I´m the person of *DK* who´s representative in this forum...

Sure, the "time of change" will come ...

Apologizes for the word "unprofessional" Apox..

was the wrong word, maybe, but my english isn't that perfect

 

I said this bcs if i tried to login to your site it says:

"U have to login for further procedure"

 

I think u started a very fine clan there...

looking forward to see u growin

...hmmmm, -> ... (siteadmin say that´s cause of the "unproffesional" Internet Explorer )...

. . .

But after all, I think this topic was´nt meant to be there for going on with the "how´s *DK* going on"-theme...

It´s talked about to set up a NEW Clan...

I think it´s a good idea of Leesy...

[Natter]

Right!!!

 

So hows about a unity-match...to give the clanless a taste

of a clan-match....so they can feel the different to the

public-games...and they think of to build a clan.

 

A mix-up-all

 

FF5 vs the world didn't worked...still wonder why

 

How's this one:

 

2 SFI

2 FF5

2 DK

2 Mercenarios

 

vs

 

2 BAB

2 NS

2 DK

2 Mercenarios

 

or something like that

[Leesy]

Sure we can try this again. Let's not say "X from this clan, Y from that clan" though. Let's just have two "pots" one with the clan members who want in, one with the non-clannies. We'll just pick names randomly and assign them to a team.

[Zymon]

Sounds cool !

But ts isn't that bad..

 

Btw... I think we could be 4 from TG so if we could do any 4v4 matches that would be fun ^^

 

 

 

[*DK* Zyros]

Sure we can try this again. Let's not say "X from this clan, Y from that clan" though. Let's just have two "pots" one with the clan members who want in, one with the non-clannies. We'll just pick names randomly and assign them to a team.

Yeah, but I think it would´nt work like "FF5 vs the world didn't worked" ... , beacause there was´nt enough non-clannies who signed up in this forum...

So..., you would have to ask some in the game, if it will be again like ^^ , that not enough non-clannies want to play/sign up...

Btw... I think we could be 4 from TG so if we could do any 4v4 matches that would be fun ^^

Yeah! ...

. . .

Btw... , we have now put a English-Area into our Web-Forum... , and now the 2 flags mean both the english-version (instead both thze german version )...

 

[Eliteone]

I've offered this in the past so I'll offer it again.

 

I'm more than willing to assist a new clan in getting it's feet of the ground etc.

 

So if you are looking to start up a clan etc. look me up.

 

 

 

 

ps: SFI has been around over 5 years now so I must be doing something right with it

[P!NX]

I've offered this in the past so I'll offer it again.

 

I'm more than willing to assist a new clan in getting it's feet of the ground etc.

 

So if you are looking to start up a clan etc. look me up.

ps: SFI has been around over 5 years now so I must be doing something right with it

 

The thing you do right infact, is that nolf2 isn't sfi's only division, so i guess it's quite stable and won't die so soon! People from other divisions of yours might get interested in nolf2 while surfing your forums, you have like 2 servers in DD up, 1 in DM, your inet-address is written down in the servernames, you have players playing DM AND DD regularly!

 

I agree with leesy that new people shouldn't just try to join =NS= or {SFI} it gets boring having only 2(3) clans to fight especially cause i doubt any clan would accept a re-match after only a week or so, especially after matches like our last few!

 

As i already mentioned some months ago in another thread, opening new clans in nolf2 these days only works if 1.a group of well known, good and active players found it 2.they need to have a forum that is well structured and in english! 3.they should be willing to let new players join them...

 

About the unprofessionality of the DK-Forums Apox, i think he means that it 1. is only in german and 2. your forum isn't well structured, like the forums of the other three clans or the uhq-forums are!

[*DK* Zyros]

As i already mentioned some months ago in another thread, opening new clans in nolf2 these days only works if a group of well known, good and active players found it

I personnaly don´t know (even not much) "well known, good and active players"that are not in a clan but want to be in one... (because, if they want, they would try join some and would´nt get the Idea to start an own) ...

It´s about communication... (like the thing that we can´t get the people to know about this Idea so easy if the don´t register at this forum)...

About the unprofessionality of the DK-Forums Apox, i think he means that it 1. is only in german and 2. your forum isn't well structured, like the forums of the other three clans or the uhq-forums are!

1. No, it´s not only in german (how I replied 2 posts ago) [it WAS]... and...

2. Just because it´s not like the majority here... , it´s "special"in THAT way, but normal in the other, because it´s a websiteforum as part of mthe structure , that is exactly done for Clans!...

[P!NX]

Ok, yes, saw that your clansite is in english now, though, every single thread and post is written in german, apart from a few players from other countries, noone understands what is written there! That's what i meant

 

[Eliteone]

The thing you do right infact, is that nolf2 isn't sfi's only division, so i guess it's quite stable and won't die so soon! People from other divisions of yours might get interested in nolf2 while surfing your forums, you have like 2 servers in DD up, 1 in DM, your inet-address is written down in the servernames, you have players playing DM AND DD regularly!

 

I agree with leesy that new people shouldn't just try to join =NS= or {SFI} it gets boring having only 2(3) clans to fight especially cause i doubt any clan would accept a re-match after only a week or so, especially after matches like our last few!

 

As i already mentioned some months ago in another thread, opening new clans in nolf2 these days only works if 1.a group of well known, good and active players found it 2.they need to have a forum that is well structured and in english! 3.they should be willing to let new players join them...

 

Not sure why you made your first comments so in case my statement wasn't clear for you I'lll recap it

 

I've offered this in the past so I'll offer it again.

 

I'm more than willing to assist a new clan in getting it's feet of the ground etc.

 

So if you are looking to start up a clan etc. look me up.

 

Clans like NS and SFI have the advantage of our members help pay for servers. No matter what the game it's hard to get started without a "presence" in the game you are playing. Servers and websites are a clan's presence in the gaming community they are a part of.

 

We have a bookable server section here at UHQ yet very few take advantage of it. A new clan could request some booking time then do recruitment drives. In NOLF2 you can usually find the new players in CO-OP but your players have to get past the "noobs suck" mentality that surfaces in some.

 

When you talk to people new to the NOLF series the biggest complaint is how rudely they were treated by other players. People forget that these "noobs" are the future of the game. You need to help them offer then pointers. Don't say things like PHOS cheater!! etc. This will get most players of a $10 game (what NOLF2 costs average these days) to put it on their shelf and forget playing it.

 

Get exposure for your clan.

Use sites like http://www.centraloutpost.com/ http://www.gamersphere.com/

use UnityHQ.net this is part of what we do here. Link clans on the website and provide logistics (bookable) servers

 

Create professional looking banners to submit to clan listing sites and use them as signatures on forums etc.

use metatags in your website and create a robots.txt file to point search engine bots to your site (gets you listed on google etc)

 

Again I've been doing the clan thing for over 5 years now and I'm more than willing to help someone get started with setting up their clan.

 

 

 

 

 

[P!NX]

Not sure why you made your first comments so in case my statement wasn't clear for you I'lll recap it

 

I've offered this in the past so I'll offer it again.

 

I'm more than willing to assist a new clan in getting it's feet of the ground etc.

 

So if you are looking to start up a clan etc. look me up.

 

Clans like NS and SFI have the advantage of our members help pay for servers. No matter what the game it's hard to get started without a "presence" in the game you are playing. Servers and websites are a clan's presence in the gaming community they are a part of.

 

We have a bookable server section here at UHQ yet very few take advantage of it. A new clan could request some booking time then do recruitment drives. In NOLF2 you can usually find the new players in CO-OP but your players have to get past the "noobs suck" mentality that surfaces in some.

 

When you talk to people new to the NOLF series the biggest complaint is how rudely they were treated by other players. People forget that these "noobs" are the future of the game. You need to help them offer then pointers. Don't say things like PHOS cheater!! etc. This will get most players of a $10 game (what NOLF2 costs average these days) to put it on their shelf and forget playing it.

 

Get exposure for your clan.

Use sites like http://www.centraloutpost.com/ http://www.gamersphere.com/

use UnityHQ.net this is part of what we do here. Link clans on the website and provide logistics (bookable) servers

 

Create professional looking banners to submit to clan listing sites and use them as signatures on forums etc.

use metatags in your website and create a robots.txt file to point search engine bots to your site (gets you listed on google etc)

 

Again I've been doing the clan thing for over 5 years now and I'm more than willing to help someone get started with setting up their clan.

 

Well at least in our clan it's not like we have anything against "noobs" (well at least not me, not sure about some other members), we're just looking for people to be nice and stick to the rules (we don't want players who might ruin our reputation or "adding fuel to the fire" for those who accuse our members of cheating and stuff) We give everyone a chance to at least have a trial month in our clan!

 

About the players in coop: Yes i know there are lots of potential dd-players (i kinda made heatman, discoMIME and Firefox start playing DD this way) but i'm tired of doing that, since it was lots of work to make a player i found there and convinced to play DD, to install the mappacks and stuff, so he could play it , and this guy left after a few days anyways, cause he was kinda without a chance against the DD-Players.

And anyways, i'm not interested in new members, just in new players who then could join one of the small clans. But just like in my case, i guess they would hardly join them, since i think everyone wants to be in a good clan! I think nowadays new people try to join sfi or ns, maybe even ff5, but in no case dk or some other small clan, which is sad!

And when someone tries to join us or sfi, neither can just say "no, we're full, join a different clan"