Genesis
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Oh, I feel like I've just stepped on a singularity and ended up before my computer, three years back in the past. Got it? No? Never mind. Well, appart from the number of people playing in the afternoon (Paris time), which is, according to my most recent experience, equal to absolute zero, I see that the topics' contents haven't changed much in the last months. It still is much fun to read. No, just kidding.
So, could anyone here sum up what's really new, or going on in the NOLF2 community? Talking about cheaters killing the game is completely optional, I figured this out myself...
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OK, Elite
I've reinstalled everything a NOLFer needs to be happy, which means TS, Live Messenger, etc. I'll check if you're online from time to time! -
Nah, no problem, dude
It's OK, I've set it to Windows 2000 compatibility and it finally runs fine...
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Hey people!
Firstly, I must say it's very nice to be back here...
Then, I must annoy you a bit with a tech problem. This might seem a bit logical, or even obvious since it's the tech section, I know. So, here we go...
NOLF2 starts normally. The menus show up, Cate moves, no problem. Here's my configuration :
- AMD Opteron 144 (not overclocked yet)
- Windows XP family edition, 32 bits
- 1GB RAM, DDR 400 MHz
- ATI X1950 Pro (not overclocked either)
And, here's the problem : I can't join any game. I get an error message saying "error trying to retrieve information about the most recent version" or something equivalent, because I run a french NOLF2 (nobody's perfect). Originally, it just froze, but I found out it was just because of my antivirus. No more freezes, just this error message. And if I try to run a singleplayer game, cinematics work, but I'm kicked back to Windows as soon as the game sequence should start. I'm affraid it would do the same in multiplayer, anyway.
So, does anyone among you, my dear friends, know how to help me? I'm about to put an end to it all. If I can't get my dose of NOLF2 very soon, life would have no meaning anymore...
Help me, please!
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Finally, everything works well, except the game itself. I can see server lists, but I still get the same Windows error message when I try joinging a game. It only says : "Client MFC Application encountered an unexpected error and must close..." well you got the picture, I guess.
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dear friends, here's a link to my blog. Most of the articles are written in english. Read, react, do whatever you want... But speak your mind, please.
Updated as often as possible.
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When I see the above painting, I think, "Cool, some knights." When Gen sees it, he thinks, "Mon Dieu! Vee surrender!"
I am so sorry, Genesis. Please realize that I could no more stop my fingers from typing that joke than I could prevent my lungs from drawing their next breath. I hope you understand it's done in friendship?
This one gave me a good laugh, Indie.And yep, I don't like Cristo's work that much, but for once I like these trees. They should remind us gamers something, no? Yeah, old 3D trees
Well, at least he didn't ruin some monument. I can't say I don't LIKE his work, to be honnest. I can't understand it, and think it's, most of the time, absolutely pointless.Now, I want the answers to Goo's quizz!
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Very nice photographs. Some buildings are very impressive, with an "Orwellian" look that is sometimes a bit scary. I don't know where he took these pictures, though.
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You're right when you say that new is not always good, Seeman. But is it bad if everyone has a different thought while looking at a picture, sculpture, etc? After all, it's not because we SEE the same thing, such as this row of three knights in armor you posted, that we necessarily have the same THOUGHT meanwhile.
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[off topic]Thanks for your answers, Phant and Mari
[/off topic]Yep, we could start working on this big update in no time if at least a few mappers would post here to say they're interested and... have the ability to do so.
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Paper walls, no problem...concrete bunkers (like in ROPS video where he shoots the kittly being placed in the rocket bunker) are an exploit. Either way, I really don't give a rats about shooting through walls.
Excuse me, RXS, but the building you're talking about is not a "bunker". Antarctic Agression is supposed to take place in some kind of south-pole research lab, made of prefabricated walls, and that's why one can shoot through most of them. There's almost nothing made of concrete in this map, except the ground inside the main buildings. The rest is, apparently, made of wood (stairs and long corridor) and some very thin metal (walls).
No problem with me if someone shoots my kitty through these walls, I won't think this person is cheating, I'll just think "argh, *colorful expression goes here*, the guy knew about the walls..."
Anyway, as we can see in this thread, people have various opinions about what is cheating and what is not. We should define some common rules before we fix anything in the game, I think, as for example the tag "cheat" (I wasn't even aware of its existence before we talked about it) is obviously not a cheat since people at Monolith made it that way.
[off topic]BTW, how does the "wake up" function work when one of your mates is tagged? Is it the same, I mean would I have to right-click several times quickly in order to make it work? I tried to use it a few times but it never worked, please let me know if it does work well for some of you, and how...[/off topic]
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I'd say that creating such a mod would prevent most of the cheating accusations made by people who don't know that these walls were designed that way... But personally, I think leaving the walls the way they are is OK. It's pure logic, and no "solid" wall in NOLF2 can be shot through without using a hack or exploiting a game flaw. Yep, in real life, an AK would certainly be able to drill a few holes into a wood, tin or paper wall, so...
On the other hand, it would be cool to make these "restricted areas that the mapmaker did not intend for you to venture into during games" become out of reach. I rarely see people use such glitches in DD, but there are more places like that in DM maps. Correcting a few things would include woodlands, khios, and maybe russian rampage...
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SCMD should only be used to boot...let Bella and or E1 do the official banning.
Word, I think that would be the begining of a solution.
About what Phantizen proposes, I think it's a great idea, of course. Now do we have the technical abilities to do so? I dunno. Some game experts should post some comments here...
Some of you might remember Goo's project, called the nolf2addon. Our goal was to develop a real sequel to the game. Ahem... Even with more than 10 people actually willing to help, we didn't manage to release a single piece of map. So I guess creating a real, self-extracting update would take much time, too.
Anyway, one of the reasons why our project didn't work is because it wasn't hosted on any of the two big NOLF2 forums. Now if we created a real subforum, dedicated to the creation of v. 1.4 only, it could work. At least it would draw people's attention to it, and maybe we'd all focus on something more interesting than accusations of cheating, for a change.
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ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.............................
You could all just play F.E.A.R.
*cough* PUNKBUSTER *cough*
Duhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DVG, you're on a forum that's dedicated to NOLF2, maybe you didn't notice. Your recurrent posts ordering us to play another game will not help us deal with the problems that occur in the game we're currently talking about. Ah, sorry. I mean...
IN THE GAME WE'RE CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT
Knix, yeah you got it right. That was the idea. If anyone else has propositions to make, go on...
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What happened to you, Knix, happened to me too, as I said in a previous topic about cheating. It's really disapointing not to be able to do anything but warn people once or twice, because, most of the times, people who cheat will start cursing, then harass other players, etc.
Question is : do I know people in NOLF2 who would be able to have some kind of control over the servers without being regarded as power mongers? Err, no. Not even myself. See Natter's case. He's someone I trust, and I believe in his total fair-play. But some other people will not, because they see things from their own point of view. I do not judge them for that, even if I think it's absolutely unfair. But, contrary to them, I'm one of Natter's online friends.
Well, why not put some people on a list, and have some community vote for them to be entitled to use SCMD, then? Wouldn't that be fair for everyone?
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Uhuh, I agree, shooting through these walls is not a solid proof of cheating, as I said above. But sniping someone right in the head (one shot, dead), and twice in a row (how did he know I had been revived?) is no luck. Nor is it hasard... By the way, I was not close to the wall -> no shadow, and I still hadn't passed the window -> no timing.
It's good to know that the walls can be fixed. If someone took care of reparing the few non-solid / half-solid walls we know of, would it need some kind of server and client-side mod, or could it be done in some kind of new mappack?
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Yesterday I saw the most interesting way of cheating ever. Just kidding, it was absolutely ridiculous.
Most of us know that a few walls in Antarctic Aggression can be shot through. All those of the small central building, and the side walls on both main entrances to Red and Blue bases.
Okay, assuming that, it is absolutely possible to shoot someone who's not really hiding with a few shots of AK, for example. A sniper who'll just crouch is very likely to end up lying down, dead.
So, when it happens to me sometimes, I'll never shout "cheater" while I know these walls were willingly designed like this.
But yesterday some guy called "joedirt" did the most wonderful thing I've ever seen so far : He sniped me twice, from behind his own base wall, through mine. Very clever if you wanna cheat without being noticed, eh?
Oh well, he ended up leaving because he had the guts to call us noobs, not before having given all of us colorful names.
Just another ordinary day in NOLF2. It didn't ruin the game, it just made us sad for him, in fact.
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WE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*gasp*OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*gaspgasp*OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!
Yeah yeah, so did we
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It's never really cool to play with someone who obviously uses a cheat, like "me" did yesterday. But I didn't even bother accuse him of anything - what would the boy do? Say "yeah, sorry, I won't do it again"? Nah. Maybe he would leave, change his name, try to act a bit more stealthy... and so on.
But man, it's SO GOOD to kick such a guy's butt from time to time, even if he wins the game in the end
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Well, it's always possible to use cheats that are not implemented in the anti-cheat fix yet. But we're playing a game, not talking about some conspiracy theory... At least I believe that Dan's fix prevents most of the known cheats & exploits from being used by "normal" users.
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Yesterday I was accused of using a new kind of cheat. We were playing on SFI's public DD server when a guy called "me" (which is, if I remember well, a violation of the rules since neither "me" nor "you" are OK) joined the game and started kicking butt, appearing right behind me whatever the place I was.
Funny thing is, I managed to kill him a few times and everytime it happened, the guy said "WTF??" or "How the (insert censored word here) did you do that?". I tried to explain to him that sometimes, even without the wall hack, you can actually KILL PEOPLE! Incredible, isn't it?
The thing that made me die laughing was when he was leaning behind a wall. I threw a grenade right into the poor guy's face, he died, here goes the short dialogue that followed :
- "me" : WTF??? how did you do that?
- Genesis : I threw a grenade at you, dude.
- "me" : How come your grenade followed me around???
- Genesis : YOU DIDN'T EVEN MOVE!
- "me" : lier!
- Genesis : Learn to write.
- "me" : Learn to shut up!
- Genesis : Then learn to play without complaining...
So, here's our new cheat: the allmighty MAGNETIC GRENADE CHEAT! PM me if you want the hack, I'd be more than glad to share this new feature with the whole community.
Well, this was just to say that cheating accusations are becoming ridiculous, and are even used by people who quite obviously DO use hacks as an "excuse". By dragging other people's attention to you and trying to appear as victims, they can keep on cheating more easily.
So, here's my message... Want a cheat-free game? Go to the anti-cheat server. Wanna be able to join any server? Don't complain every 5 seconds about people who cheat or seem to cheat - frag them, have fun, practice, become a better player day by day, that's what this game is for.
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Sly, Care to elaborate a wee bit?
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Yeah like this guy is going to go back, play as the same name, etc etc etc... did anyone get his IP? Bah, he's probably someone we all know anyway. Our community is very small. WTF - was he testing out his new cheat? That's just great, just one more reason why FEAR is HERE...
PunkBUSTER!!!!
I'd surely like to try FEAR - in fact, I did buy it and changed it back the same day. Reason : with my Athlon 2600+, 1GB RAM and an nVidia Ti 4600 that cost me about $600 3 years ago, I get... 6-10 frames per second! Woohoo!
Not to mention that the ambiance in FEAR is err... very, very different from the one I like in NOLF2.
But yeah, if I have enough money to change a few things on my computer, like everything except my HD drives, for example, I will buy it again. And Oblivion, too.
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I used to play with a 128kbps connection, originally. Well, it worked, and my ping was not much higher than now (real 5Mbps) when I joined US servers. On european servers, it was slightly higher, but still playable.
Honnestly, it might be better with more recent games than with NOLF2, since the game's net code is absolutely awful - one of the worst I ever saw for a FPS.
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I don't know what is with NOLF people that they are stuck playing the same standard maps over and over again and don't want to change.
I guess our best players don't really wanna play custom maps because it took them months to know every corner of the classic ones. I noticed that most of the time, there are "new" people playing the custom maps while the veterans don't care that much.
Since I suck on both classic and new maps, I'd like to give these ones another try one of those days. I think some kind of contest would be cool, in order to select up to 10 custom maps...
I've reinstalled everything a NOLFer needs to be happy, which means TS, Live Messenger, etc. I'll check if you're online from time to time!
This one gave me a good laugh, Indie.
UnityHQ Official Mappack
in NOLF2
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Where can I get an updated mappack now ? It seems all the packs you were talking about were removed from the download section, right ? Yeah, I know, it took me almost two years to reinstall the game, and now I want the mappacks RIGHT NOW. (Yeah I'm a spoiled kid, I admit.)
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Oh, alright, forget the stoopit question, I found it. I thought the Mappack installer was the official one, from Sierra. My bad.